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		<title>By: Dev</title>
		<link>http://www.kinkunleashed.com/2009/06/29/a-bad-case-of-non-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you DO sound like me...sorry I haven&#039;t been reading your blog regularly until now.  (You&#039;re on my blogroll now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you DO sound like me&#8230;sorry I haven&#8217;t been reading your blog regularly until now.  (You&#8217;re on my blogroll now.)</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.kinkunleashed.com/2009/06/29/a-bad-case-of-non-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-4177</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danimo21: I&#039;m not sure whether he&#039;s been in a D/s relationship before. Not that we&#039;re completely D/s, anyway. He&#039;s not always subby at all. He gets that way on occasion, when I keep him locked or something like that, but most of the time he&#039;s just normal, and we have a pretty traditional bond, as you put it. In fact, he&#039;s pretty &quot;alpha&quot;. Strong, confident, independent. He needs his space and he does what he wants, when he wants. Once in a while I decide on a rule, a game we&#039;ll play, and he always obeys. I&#039;ll admit too that he defers to me quite a bit: for example, if I suggest something for supper, he almost always goes with my suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danimo21: I&#8217;m not sure whether he&#8217;s been in a D/s relationship before. Not that we&#8217;re completely D/s, anyway. He&#8217;s not always subby at all. He gets that way on occasion, when I keep him locked or something like that, but most of the time he&#8217;s just normal, and we have a pretty traditional bond, as you put it. In fact, he&#8217;s pretty &#8220;alpha&#8221;. Strong, confident, independent. He needs his space and he does what he wants, when he wants. Once in a while I decide on a rule, a game we&#8217;ll play, and he always obeys. I&#8217;ll admit too that he defers to me quite a bit: for example, if I suggest something for supper, he almost always goes with my suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: danimo21</title>
		<link>http://www.kinkunleashed.com/2009/06/29/a-bad-case-of-non-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-4152</link>
		<dc:creator>danimo21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you two really sound like elias and i some days. . .

is this boy toy&#039;s first D/s relationship? perhaps he&#039;s just growing comfortable enough with you to get out of his submissive shell and show you other aspects of his personality? perhaps he&#039;s been aching to show you these traits, hence all these seemingly out of nowhere rule changes. i can be very submissive (and also quite dominant) but i can never hold my &quot;act&quot; for too long until i long for a more &quot;traditional&quot; bond at least most of the time. although that&#039;s why i&#039;ve never entered an expressly D/s relationship, and clearly boy toy has. i&#039;m just throwing thoughts around here.

*more big hugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you two really sound like elias and i some days. . .</p>
<p>is this boy toy&#8217;s first D/s relationship? perhaps he&#8217;s just growing comfortable enough with you to get out of his submissive shell and show you other aspects of his personality? perhaps he&#8217;s been aching to show you these traits, hence all these seemingly out of nowhere rule changes. i can be very submissive (and also quite dominant) but i can never hold my &#8220;act&#8221; for too long until i long for a more &#8220;traditional&#8221; bond at least most of the time. although that&#8217;s why i&#8217;ve never entered an expressly D/s relationship, and clearly boy toy has. i&#8217;m just throwing thoughts around here.</p>
<p>*more big hugs*</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.kinkunleashed.com/2009/06/29/a-bad-case-of-non-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-4126</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vixen: It IS driving me crazy. But to be fair, I often keep these feelings to myself because I&#039;m afraid of his reactions. When I do bring myself to talk about them, I usually do it in such a way that he feels blamed or something, so he does react... And I&#039;m overly sensitive, as opposed to him being pretty logical. We&#039;ll eventually figure this whole communication thing. Slowly, but surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vixen: It IS driving me crazy. But to be fair, I often keep these feelings to myself because I&#8217;m afraid of his reactions. When I do bring myself to talk about them, I usually do it in such a way that he feels blamed or something, so he does react&#8230; And I&#8217;m overly sensitive, as opposed to him being pretty logical. We&#8217;ll eventually figure this whole communication thing. Slowly, but surely.</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roo-roo: He was aware he was pulling back. He&#039;s just slower at these things than I am, I guess. Or rather, different. He needs to think them through, and I need to talk them through... We talked, tonight. He WAS oblivious to how badly I was taking things. Not out of maliciousness, but just because he simply couldn&#039;t imagine that it&#039;d bother me in this way. To him, it&#039;s simple: he asks for time to think about something, and we talk about it later. He just doesn&#039;t understand how this could bother me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roo-roo: He was aware he was pulling back. He&#8217;s just slower at these things than I am, I guess. Or rather, different. He needs to think them through, and I need to talk them through&#8230; We talked, tonight. He WAS oblivious to how badly I was taking things. Not out of maliciousness, but just because he simply couldn&#8217;t imagine that it&#8217;d bother me in this way. To him, it&#8217;s simple: he asks for time to think about something, and we talk about it later. He just doesn&#8217;t understand how this could bother me.</p>
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		<title>By: Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((you))

The not talking about things would be driving me *crazy*.  When the air is never cleared and I have everything swimming around in my head like you do, I &lt;i&gt;obsess&lt;/i&gt;.  Which in turn make me miserable.

I agree with your statement that boys CAN be oblivious.  Bc I know sometimes I make  a HUGE case out of something that I was SURE he was doing on purpose to me and come to realize...uh no.  LOL

BUT I also agree with Roo.  *Something* must have caused Boy Toy to change.  It&#039;s just too bad he won&#039;t talk to you to help you understand what it was.</description>
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<p>The not talking about things would be driving me *crazy*.  When the air is never cleared and I have everything swimming around in my head like you do, I <i>obsess</i>.  Which in turn make me miserable.</p>
<p>I agree with your statement that boys CAN be oblivious.  Bc I know sometimes I make  a HUGE case out of something that I was SURE he was doing on purpose to me and come to realize&#8230;uh no.  LOL</p>
<p>BUT I also agree with Roo.  *Something* must have caused Boy Toy to change.  It&#8217;s just too bad he won&#8217;t talk to you to help you understand what it was.</p>
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		<title>By: roo-roo</title>
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		<dc:creator>roo-roo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Boys can be so oblivious&quot;

I&#039;m sure he&#039;s fully aware that he&#039;s pulling back.  I just have to wonder about the reason behind it.  And I know I&#039;m going to sound like a broken record, but the only way to figure things out is to talk about them.  You&#039;re trying, I know.  But apparently that&#039;s the hard part- getting him on board for this conversation.  Sending the e-mail hopefully will have helped.  Tom&#039;s idea is very much worthwhile.  Without doing this, you&#039;ll continue to be in a bad place emotionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boys can be so oblivious&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s fully aware that he&#8217;s pulling back.  I just have to wonder about the reason behind it.  And I know I&#8217;m going to sound like a broken record, but the only way to figure things out is to talk about them.  You&#8217;re trying, I know.  But apparently that&#8217;s the hard part- getting him on board for this conversation.  Sending the e-mail hopefully will have helped.  Tom&#8217;s idea is very much worthwhile.  Without doing this, you&#8217;ll continue to be in a bad place emotionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Tom. It sounds like a sensible way to go about things... I&#039;ll try suggesting it when Boy Toy and I finally do talk... I know he finds it harder to talk about that kind of stuff, but I need it, otherwise I will end up resenting him too much :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tom. It sounds like a sensible way to go about things&#8230; I&#8217;ll try suggesting it when Boy Toy and I finally do talk&#8230; I know he finds it harder to talk about that kind of stuff, but I need it, otherwise I will end up resenting him too much <img src='http://www.kinkunleashed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.kinkunleashed.com/2009/06/29/a-bad-case-of-non-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-4113</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a partner with whom we agreed that we&#039;d have a weekly &quot;board meeting&quot; - a time when we would spend (even if it was just fifteen minutes or a half hour) going over the previous week and ticking off what worked or not. 

It was important to do this *outside* of a sexual context, so we cold do it with a clear head. During dinner on Sundays was convenient, but we&#039;d have to change once in a while. The idea, though, was to cover the basics, and if something wasn&#039;t working, to then agree on another time to discuss them (if the current time wasn&#039;t good). 

It&#039;s actually a good idea for any relationship, not just BDSM. Here&#039;s hoping that you get something worked out soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a partner with whom we agreed that we&#8217;d have a weekly &#8220;board meeting&#8221; &#8211; a time when we would spend (even if it was just fifteen minutes or a half hour) going over the previous week and ticking off what worked or not. </p>
<p>It was important to do this *outside* of a sexual context, so we cold do it with a clear head. During dinner on Sundays was convenient, but we&#8217;d have to change once in a while. The idea, though, was to cover the basics, and if something wasn&#8217;t working, to then agree on another time to discuss them (if the current time wasn&#8217;t good). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually a good idea for any relationship, not just BDSM. Here&#8217;s hoping that you get something worked out soon.</p>
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